Adding on to their vision to change the way real estate is marketed in Singapore, PropertyLimBrothers presents a new podcast series, Sofa So Good, hosted by real estate consultant and co-founder of PropertyLimBrothers, Melvin Lim. Melvin and his team sell homes by creating unique Video content for each property, he created the first Video Home Tour in Singapore in 2017 and have done more than 510 videos till date for real estate tours in Singapore.
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What are some of the key trends moving forward into 2022?
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We want to notice what are some of the key components
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when it comes to government land sales?
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Nuggets On The Go, let’s go.
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All right, so we’re back with Nuggets On The Go,
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Checkout this nugget at the back.
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This is a shape of nugget actually.
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In the middle of all the green colour stripe.
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You see this orange thing?
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All right
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what are some of the key trends moving forward into 2022.
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We’re right on the tail end of year 2021.
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Congratulations, you made it.
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And now we are in October towards the tail end of 2021.
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Want to notice what are some of the key components
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when it comes to government land sales,
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as well as the balance inventory in the market
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in terms of new launches,
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how the resale prices moving for condominiums,
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as well as we want to take note
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of some of the key indicators coming up
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in the next two to three years
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in the sense that there’s gonna be a couple
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of completed projects that will hit the market.
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In short, property juggles that we use
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when we talk about newly completed projects,
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we call them TOP projects,
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meaning temporary occupation period.
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That’s the time that the owners
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that bought from the launch,
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they bought from the show flat from the developers.
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They are going to collect their keys.
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So in short, for the context of today’s session,
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we’ll name all these top projects, as TOP projects.
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So these are the four main pockets
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that we’re gonna talk about.
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I’m gonna look at my screen as well.
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So if you see my eyes deviate a little bit, don’t worry.
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I’m still looking at you.
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All right, so four main things I want to discuss today
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is that we’re gonna talk about some of the balance
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new launches per square foot pricing.
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We also wanna look at the new, new launch
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per square foot pricing.
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And when we categorise them as new launch,
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we are talking about those new launches
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that will be coming out in the next six to 12 months
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because they have been successfully bidded
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by developers based on government land sales
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that are launched this year.
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We also want to look at what are some of the behaviours
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of pricing when we look at those newly TOP projects,
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as well as the resale condo asking prices as well.
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So why do we build on these four boxes?
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And you see this graph at the bottom
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is that a lot of the time when we look at this supply graph,
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so this graph is from URA.
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And when we look at this expected year of completion
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in terms of the amount of supply
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that’s coming into the market,
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these are actually properties that will be completed
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from launches, and they include the dark red colour,
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which are private residential properties
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as well as the light pink colour,
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which are executive condominiums.
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So take note that when we look at this graph,
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this is actually telling us on which particular year
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will these properties hit the market
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in terms of its TOP status.
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So these are already supplies that has been factored
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into the market.
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It’s just that they are going to complete in a certain year.
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So for example, in the year 2021,
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there’s gonna be 7,318 of the private residential units
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that will be completed.
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And then year 2022, 10,171.
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2023, it’s going to have a total of 16,549
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with a combination of private residential,
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as well as executive condominiums.
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So these are already projects
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that has been launched previously,
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and they’re going to be completed.
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Of course, what this data doesn’t tell us
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is that they didn’t tell us
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that how many of these completed properties
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have been successfully sold by developers to buyers.
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They’re actually talking about how much supply
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will hit the resale market per se.
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So take note that the interesting thing is that
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when we buy a property from the new launch status
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during the show flat phase,
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the moment it TOPs,
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this property then translates into a resale property
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in the resale market.
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So now that we’ve a set of context,
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let’s have a look at the expected year of completion
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all the way starting from 2015 to the projection of 2024.
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Of course, these charts, they do change with time.
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The key reason is because sometimes government land sales,
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they have a varying kinds of factors in terms of the amount
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of supply that hits the market.
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Sometimes the land plot is being activated.
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Sometimes developer tender a plot to activate the land sales
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and thus, supply does change as on the year-to-year basis.
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So this chart, when we look at it next year,
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some of the figures might change
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because maybe some additional new projects has been launched
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in the year 2022.
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And thus, that affects the future supply of 2024, 2025, 2026
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So take note that we have to look at this
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on a year-to-year kind of basis,
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but if you notice, there’s this wave that sort of happens
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from 2015 on an uptrend
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and then it comes down to 2019 being very low
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in terms of completion supply.
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And then it is going to trend upwards again,
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scaling towards 2023 to reach a higher level
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of completion supply.
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And then very likely it will skew downwards a little bit,
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depending on varying factors as well.
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So what does this tell us
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and how does this help us make a decision
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on what kind of properties to go for,
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whether is it buying for a primary residence
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or whether is it going for investment property,
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and what will be the reverse kind of perspective
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from different stakeholders.
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And different stakeholders,
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we are talking about consumers like ourselves.
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We’re talking about developers
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and we’re talking about the owners that have already bought
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into the market previously in some of the new launches.
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And let’s have a look.
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When we look at this, what has happened in 2020 or 2021?
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If you’ve been following our Nuggets On The Go series
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is that we have been talking about some key indicators
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in the market is that the resale price
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has been moving very strongly.
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New launch has also been having a lot
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of very healthy performance.
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Landed property is primetime.
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CCR is of course one of the segment
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that has not really surpassed it’s peak in 2013,
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but it’s gonna surpass it’s peak very soon.
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There’s a lot of people putting their attention
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on the CCR market,
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but what this is telling us is that 2020 to 2021,
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it has been the year, basically the past 18 months,
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has been the year for resale properties.
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Resale properties has seen a lot of transaction volume.
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Similarly, it has also been the year
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for new launch products.
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It has also seen an increase in terms of transaction volume,
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or just looking at the amount of transactions
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that has happened since January until September.
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Based on that level,
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moving towards the December phase,
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we might be ending the year with close
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to about 12,000 transactions compared to last year,
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which is about 9,000-odd transactions.
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So in terms of year-to-year volume for new launch
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and also for resale,
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there has been an increase
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in the number of transacted properties in both segments.
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And of course, bearing in mind,
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for the past 10, 15 years,
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every month we’re seeing close to about 50%
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of transaction in the private residential market,
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belonging to the new launch market
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and 50% belonging to the resale market.
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So these two primary products,
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they both have their own audiences,
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but the fundamental theory is
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that new launch always leads the price movement,
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because that has to be a disparity between new launch
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and resale.
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And this disparity is created
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because it is technically like a vicious cycle in a sense,
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meaning that, firstly, developer will bid for land.
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They will price in their construction costs.
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They will price in their margin.
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They will price in several other factors.
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And of course,
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for a developer to be able to be sustainable,
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definitely every business has to have a profit margin
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in the sense.
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So this margin is of course, being translated
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into the launch price
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and that is being passed on, of course, to consumers.
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And that’s a natural process in the entire economy, right?
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So when projects are being launched at a certain price,
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it sets a new benchmark in a certain region,
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a certain district, a certain segment,
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thereby causing a ripple effect into the resale pricing
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around the new launches.
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And thus everytime you will see that resale owners are very excited
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when the new launch is popping up in their nearby plots,
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and they will be looking at how much
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are the developers going to launch it?
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What impact does it have on their current resale pricing
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in the next few years?
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Because the ripple effect happens over the next few years.
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When the new launches are being priced at, for example,
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let’s say this new launch,
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there are two plots that were being sold yesterday
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at Slim, what is that?
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Slim Barracks.
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All right, so the two plots, close to about 10 bids each,
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projected potential launch price based on some news articles
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is gonna be above $2,100 PSF,
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because they were all bidded at about $1200+ PPR.
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So let’s say if the developer is gonna launch at $2,100
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or maybe $2,200, what’s gonna happen is that
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when this project sell out, eventually,
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let’s say if I’m the buyer that bought a $2,100-$2,200,
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when I wait for three, four years for it to be completed,
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I will then want to price it in the market
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if I were to sell it when I collect my keys,
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maybe at about $2,300, $2,400,
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because if I kind of hit that price,
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then there’s no reason for me to exit
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if I have good holding power.
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I would just perhaps rent it out.
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I will not sell back at a price that I purchase
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if I have very strong holding power,
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and that this is an investment property
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or maybe I’m just buying for own stay.
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So if, let’s say I can successfully hit $2,300,
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$2,400 exit price, it then creates a brand new benchmark
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on my TOP project.
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And that will cause a ripple effect
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to some of the surrounding, existing resale projects
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surrounding that area.
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And it will then create a disparity effect
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to create like an upward trend movement
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over the next couple of years.
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And that’s how the relationship
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between new launch, TOP projects
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and resale projects come into play.
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And this is the exact four boxes
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that we are gonna discuss today
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because if you look at what has happened in 2017,
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so 2017, basically what happened was
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that I don’t know whether do you still recall all this news.
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This was the 2017 news on Business Time.
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It’s actually talking about a property market
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on the verge of turning
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because what happened was that
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that particular two years during this season, 2017,
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moving to 2018,
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those were the years that en bloc happened.
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There were a lot of HUDCs that were en bloc,
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for example, Rio Casa, that was being en bloc
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into roofer and residences,
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and then of course, there was another en bloc that happened
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and that translated with Affinity at Serangoon.
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Foreign residents came from en bloc as well.
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And then the spillover then happened
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into a lot of different en blocs
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from OCR to RCR, all the way coming into the CCR region.
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So 2017, 2018, en bloc happened.
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Basically, if I were to bring out this chart,
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this was the history, basically starting from 2017.
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So let’s have a look at this black box.
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So basically when the inventory
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in the entire market runs low
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on the developers kind of land bank,
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basically developers,
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they will definitely need to top up the amount
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of land bank inventory that they have
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and they have to, of course, go through a process
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of bidding through government listers
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or going for en bloc kind of purchase,
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tender process and things like that.
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When they have accumulated land,
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then basically what they will do is that
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over the next two years,
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they will then be very focused
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while they might continue the top of their land bank,
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they will focus, of course, launch their projects,
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talk to builders, architects and structure the entire thing,
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launch it into the market.
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Make sure that the campaign is done correctly.
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Pricing is done correctly.
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Sell it to the market.
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And of course, that then gave rise
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to the 2018 to 2020 period,
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whereby developers were launching projects aggressively
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in the market.
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And that was the reason why over that three years,
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we saw a lot of new launches pop up in the market.
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And I believe a lot of people have, of course,
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bought into the projects as well.
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And when that happened, 2019 was the interesting year
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where new launches hit a new high
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in terms of PSF benchmark.
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And I’m not sure whether you remember back
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in the haydays, 2018 period,
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you can still perhaps buy like a 2-bedder
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that’s below a million dollars.
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Now there’s technically no 2-bedder
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that’s below $1 mil dollars.
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We are talking about a new benchmark,
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entry benchmark of close to about $1.2 mil
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for most of the two bedders new launch.
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Anything that is below $1 mil definitely is a 1-bedder,
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and we’re talking about 1-bedder,
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at least over $900K+,
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$1 mil dollars for entry-level.
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So this is the new benchmark
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that has been formed ever since the 2019 to 2021 period
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as the balance inventory starts to clear out by itself
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through launches.
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And then in 2020, disparity occurs with a combination
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of factors with COVID being one of the catalysts.
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And of course, with a lot of people now focusing
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on their homes getting for more bedrooms,
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larger sizes, more outdoor space.
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Of course, that gives rise to a lot of spillover effect,
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pent up demand for landed properties,
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strata landed, 4-bedder apartments, penthouses,
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ground floors and stuffs like that.
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But the disparity also happens between recent
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and new launches whereby
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a lot of buyers are hunting for very good deals
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in the resale market – lower PSF, freehold properties,
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or 99-year properties that has that disparity
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between the resale PSF versus some of the new launches
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in their surrounding estates
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That has heated up the entire resale market.
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So when you look at 2020 and 2021, where we are right now,
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the resale market has technically heated up,
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but something has happened right now in the year 2021
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towards the tail-end.
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We’re noticing that the balance inventory
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in some of the new launch projects
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that were launched previously in the past one to two years
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are starting to clear out very quickly
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is because of the fact that a lot of sellers
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in the resale market,
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I mean, similarly event,
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if i’m a seller that wants to sell my property
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in the resale market
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if I’m holding on to a movable product
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and by movable product,
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please refer to our previous episodes
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because we explained in-depth
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that when we’re in the sellers’ market,
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not all categories of properties are in the sellers’ market.
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There are specific segments that are moving faster
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than some other segments.
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For example, if you’re holding onto large size apartments,
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you would definitely move faster
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than holding onto a very small size apartment.
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The key reason is because of changing behaviour
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after the circuit breaker.
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A lot of people are looking for larger size
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for their own stay to have more indoor space
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for themselves and their kids
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and working from home and things like that.
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So behavioural changes typically adds on fewer
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to some of the specific types of properties
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that will move faster in the resale market
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compared to other types.
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So this is just one example.
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So because of that, sellers that are holding on
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to movable products, they are pricing their property
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at a slightly future asking price.
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They’re definitely not pricing their market
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at the current transacted price.
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Everybody is trying to price their market
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at sort of like a future asking price, per se.
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And because of that,
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I think when buyers hunt for properties in the market,
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when they look at these two spectrum,
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a higher resale asking price for some of the properties
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they’re looking at, then they were thinking,
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hey, then should I go for some of the balanced, new launch
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that is perhaps gonna TOP very soon
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in one year or two years’ time.
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And the PSF seems pretty reasonable compared
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to some of the brand new, brand new launches
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because for new launches, there are two types.
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One is we are talking about balance inventory of launches
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that has happened in the past one to two years.
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Provided of course, the developer didn’t really increase
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the price very significantly.
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The second type of the brand new, brand new type
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and brand new, brand new type basically, definitely,
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the new PSF is of a new level, right?
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So it’s definitely gonna be a higher PSF
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than the balanced ones.
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Let me just take a breather
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Am I talking like a machine gun ah?
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(Melvin chuckling)
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By the way, we’re having this halftime commercial break.
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Okay, let’s head back.
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Okay, so yeah, where were we?
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So we’re talking about a brand new, brand new type
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of PSF pricing is definitely much higher
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than those balanced ones, provided whoever hasn’t really
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increased their prices significantly.
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So this is one part that we think is, right now,
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an opportunity if you can hunt for this type of balance,
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new launches, provided, of course, they are in a location
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that suits your needs.
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They’re in the location that suits your investment
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kind of angle as well.
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Of course, do not buy them hastily,
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try to make sure that you go through
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an entire checklist to make sure
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that this is a sound investment
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for potential, future uptrend gain.
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Or maybe even if you cannot exit them
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in three, five, eight years time,
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you can still rent out, collect rental income
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and things like that.
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Okay, so some examples.
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Of course, if you look at this chart,
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we did some comparisons with existing launches
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as well as some products that has just hit the market
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in terms of new, TOP asking prices.
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So the second part of this nuggets
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that we’re gonna talk about is that
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this then give us a very interesting perspective as well
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because of the fact that this has increased in prices,
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in asking price in the last 18 months,
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some of these balance new launch per square foot prices
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seems pretty interesting,
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pretty attractive as well,
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provided that it has not increased in price yet
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because what is gonna happen in the next two years,
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2022, 2023, developers are going to top up their land bank.
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They are going to bid for land again
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from GLS, from en bloc.
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Maybe that will happen.
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We’re not saying that that will definitely happen,
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but as their project starts to complete in 2021, 2022 and 2023
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because they are gonna hand over their projects
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to the buyers that have bought them.
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The TOP is going to be completed.
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What that means is that developers
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are then going to launch new projects.
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And in order to launch new projects,
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the next year is going to be a year
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that they will very likely top up the land bank.
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And thus from this graph,
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you can see the activity from a developer’s point of view
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because they are gonna hand over their completed products.
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They then need to top up the land bank
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in order to launch new products.
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So based on our opinion,
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we think that 2022 will be the year
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that there’s gonna be a lot of aggressive land bids.
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What that might happen is
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that it will then create a new benchmark,
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new launch price.
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With that being set in terms of benchmark pricing,
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we’re also going to see this category.
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Newly TOP, PSF will then set new benchmark prices as well
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because have a look at the amount
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TOP projects that are going to hit the market.
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It then means that the owners that have bought
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in this season, 2019 to 2020, or 2018 to 2020,
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they are gonna collect their keys over here.
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And if they need to sell,
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they will definitely price their properties
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at at least $200, $300, $400 PSF,
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more than the purchase price that they bought during launch.
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And then we’re going to see a new benchmark
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in this category also.
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So we’re gonna see two new benchmarks.
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This and this.
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And with this continuous movement in resale asking prices
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as well from the resale sellers,
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it then means that if I can hunt for something here,
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this could be one of the remaining competing products left
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in 2021, 2022 that might have decent entry
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in terms of PSF and quantum price.
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00:19:30,000 –> 00:19:32,640
So what this means for you is that in conclusion
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from this episode,
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I think it will be good if you can continue
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to hunt for resale condos that has good attributes.
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00:19:39,800 –> 00:19:41,120
If you can hunt for freeholds
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00:19:41,120 –> 00:19:44,080
or you can hunt for 99-year that have very good entry prices
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00:19:44,080 –> 00:19:45,800
in terms of PSF or quantum price offers.
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00:19:45,800 –> 00:19:47,680
And of course, after you’ve done your homework
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00:19:47,680 –> 00:19:49,960
to make sure that, I mean, PLB in short,
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we have this MOAT analysis that we have a scoring system,
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of course, with close to 30 factors that then allow us
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to give a final scoring upon a hundred point system
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on whether this project has a higher score
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00:19:59,960 –> 00:20:02,360
as compared to the other three, four, five projects.
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00:20:02,360 –> 00:20:05,040
And of course, if you need a consultation service with PLB,
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00:20:05,040 –> 00:20:06,320
we have a buyer specialist team
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00:20:06,320 –> 00:20:08,920
that specialises in analyzing MOAT analysis,
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00:20:08,920 –> 00:20:11,280
pricing mechanism for our buyers and investors.
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00:20:11,280 –> 00:20:13,880
So we go through that lengthy process with our clients
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00:20:13,880 –> 00:20:15,760
over two to three different sessions.
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00:20:15,760 –> 00:20:16,960
Can click on the link down below
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if you need to speak to some of our consultants.
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But of course, if you’re doing your own homework yourself,
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do continue to hunt for resale properties
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00:20:23,120 –> 00:20:24,240
that has good attributes.
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00:20:24,240 –> 00:20:26,480
And then there are a lot of hidden gems
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00:20:26,480 –> 00:20:29,320
in the freehold, 999-year leasehold market.
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There are also a lot of hidden gems
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00:20:30,680 –> 00:20:33,360
in 99-year projects that has very good entry
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00:20:33,360 –> 00:20:35,000
in terms of PSF, quantum.
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00:20:35,000 –> 00:20:37,800
And the second category that you can look at
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is definitely this segment,
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which are the balanced,
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00:20:40,200 –> 00:20:43,480
new launch PSF pricing entry price market.
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And of course, do take note that when we talk about PSF,
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we also want to look at the entry quantum price.
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00:20:48,200 –> 00:20:50,880
So these two segments, very interesting segment to look for
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00:20:50,880 –> 00:20:54,720
in the last quarter of 2021, moving forward towards 2022.
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00:20:54,720 –> 00:20:56,600
So we hope that today’s Nuggets On The Go
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00:20:56,600 –> 00:20:58,080
is beneficial for you.
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00:20:58,080 –> 00:21:00,480
Of course, we want to look at what we have been talking
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00:21:00,480 –> 00:21:01,920
about in the more visual format.
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00:21:01,920 –> 00:21:03,520
Tune into our YouTube channel.
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00:21:03,520 –> 00:21:05,880
If you are now on the road listening on Apple Podcasts
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00:21:05,880 –> 00:21:08,120
or Spotify, you can listen on the go,
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00:21:08,120 –> 00:21:10,640
but I think visual format where we’re showing this charts
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00:21:10,640 –> 00:21:12,440
to you will be on YouTube channel
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00:21:12,440 –> 00:21:14,480
and of course IGTV and Facebook as well.
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00:21:14,480 –> 00:21:16,960
So we hope that today’s episode adds value to you.
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00:21:16,960 –> 00:21:19,480
Once again, we’re gonna leave all the links down below
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00:21:19,480 –> 00:21:20,680
on previous episodes.
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00:21:20,680 –> 00:21:23,120
If you need to gain access to our webinar series
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00:21:23,120 –> 00:21:25,360
that we have done with some of our partners as well
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00:21:25,360 –> 00:21:27,920
over the past two months, landed webinar series.
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00:21:27,920 –> 00:21:32,840
You need access to the 83 page report to what is available
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00:21:32,840 –> 00:21:35,360
within a 500 meters radius from MRT line.
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00:21:35,360 –> 00:21:36,440
All these links are down below,
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right here for you to sign up.
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00:21:37,960 –> 00:21:39,120
It’s free of charge for you,
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00:21:39,120 –> 00:21:40,800
for our listeners and audience.
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00:21:40,800 –> 00:21:43,080
And meantime, stay safe and take care
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00:21:43,080 –> 00:21:45,240
as a we’re in October season right now.
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And we hope that everything turns out for you well.
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00:21:47,400 –> 00:21:49,160
And of course, stay prudent as well
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00:21:49,160 –> 00:21:51,400
before you purchase any property.
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And always remember, it’s very easy to purchase,
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but make sure that you visualise the exit.
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00:21:55,680 –> 00:21:57,280
Look for disparity effect.
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00:21:57,280 –> 00:21:59,640
Look for prime hexagon that we’ve been talking about.
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And once again, my name is Melvin Lim.
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Happy to have you with us to the end of this episode
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and meantime, take care.
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00:22:04,600 –> 00:22:06,320
We’ll see you on the next one, cheers.
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